Thursday, January 10, 2008

Stay Classy

An unsolicited piece of advice - If you ever find yourself trying to express the proper balance of sympathy and antipathy, stop. There is no such thing, and you're about to make yourself look like a prick.

Posted by bonobo at 1/10/2008 12:03:00 AM

11 comments:

Scott Piepho said...

LOL. No idea what you were talking about until I scrolled down my reader a bit more.

9:17 AM
Anonymous said...

Tried to email you, but for some reason your gmail wasn't working.

I stand by my comments. I feel awful for the guy and his situation, but I think the blast he took at the party out the door was entirely unwarranted and unfair. Also, it builds resentment in Franklin County over petty stuff that is misplaced (there are tons of stuff to go after the party on, that one was BS). I obviously would have dug into him much more, had it not been for the situation he faces. But just because he faces that situation, he doesn't get a free pass on saying whatever he wants without response. I'm not the only one that feels that way.

If that makes me a prick, so be it.

1:00 PM
Anonymous said...

Ok then. You are a prick.

1:07 PM
Anonymous said...

of course you can express a sense of antipathy and sympathy. i felt really sorry that falwell's family had to endure the death of a loved one. still dislike the fucker and everything he stood for.

see? easy. absolutely disagree with there being no such thing.

i personally like paul. ryan as well. i'm easy. i agree with most everything politically they do - i think. political strategy? we diverge pretty violently.

i think that kind of letter has no place in a withdrawal from a race. it's politically tone deaf. i felt weird reading the letter. it was a mix of political and personal. i would have preferred to get a personal note from him and express my sorrow for his loss along with a short political statement of withdrawal. seems more appropriate.

the announcement was a mixture of personal and political. how can you expect people not to react (sincerely) to both?

all that said, my deep condolences to paul on the loss of his father. i can't imagine what my life will be like when that happens to me. he's one hell of an activist. any disagreement we may have pales in comparison to the loss of a family member and the larger struggles we face as Democrats and Progressives.

1:17 PM
JK said...

Ryan,

As always, much love for ya big guy.

-JJ

1:22 PM
Anonymous said...

Oh Jerid-

I cannot in mixed company express the feelings I have for you.

GB-
Ryan

1:31 PM
JK said...

The love's that strong? I'm touched.

Nothing's wrong with expressing a little man love and emotion.

I'll admit it, I got all teary eyed the other night while watching a movie.

2:30 PM
bonobo said...

Not to hit and run, but answering Eric is the simplest way for me to answer all y'all-

With Falwell you give past tense sympathy and present tense antipathy. That's one way to get around it. With Mr.Ackerman, you express disagreement without sounding like you personally dislike him. That's another way. Finally, you critique Paul's note as awkwardly mixing personal and political. You're spot-on. The problem is, when you do this on the victim side, you come across as awkward. When you mix the same personal and political in the other direction, you come off otherwise. Politically tone deaf.

Regardless, I wasn't trying to judge the merits of anyone's claims. How the hell would I know if Paul has a legitimate beef with the party? I just thought there were more effective ways to make them.

3:04 PM
Anonymous said...

Jason:

I’ve watched off and on the comments on this thread with lessening interest, but I do feel a few words should be said.

First and foremost to Jason: I apologize if my newsletter was awkward, but sometimes life can be awkward. I didn’t ask for either of the events of the last ten days to happen let alone for them to happen at the same time. I am fundamentally an emotional person. Ryan will testify to that I’m sure!

I cannot express how it feels to be standing in a hospital room, watching the man you’ve known for 46 years lie there, barely conscious and not really be sure if he even knows you are there. This man, whom I loved, was my guide, my protector and frankly my biggest cheerleader in whatever I tried to do I my life. It is an incredibly helpless feeling, frankly. Now couple that with getting a cell phone call with the news that Zach Manifold has said something else that is really offensive. Not a good combination and I will plead guilty to not liking the juxtaposition.

I knew that whatever I said, whether it was light and breezy, dark and brooding, matter of fact or even if I said nothing at all, it would appear on the front page of Buckeye State Blog because Jerid, who has become the mouthpiece of certain elements of the Democratic Party has decided that his mission in life is to try to make me look bad. In fact, all he has done is to make himself look foolish instead. He takes dictation in a way popularized by Judith Miller of the NY Times in the run up to the Iraqi war.

Therefore, I decided to speak as I found and to express myself in the way that seemed best to me without worrying about what some kid wearing size 2 shoes, trying desperately to fill the size 12 shoes left for him, failing, and knowing that he is failing, thinks of me. Couple that with the personal comments from his pet pedophile about my personal appearance and you get quite a stew over there (I guess I should be thankful that he wasn’t paying attention to my young daughter instead). It doesn't take much to recognize a serious inferiority complex when I see one

I have heard from so many people over the last twenty-four hours, from friends, office holders, bloggers, fellow candidates and from some people who I have never met. I have been humbled by their words and am certainly not worthy of most of them.

I never told my Father that I was running for this seat. When I started this in November, I figured there was only a 50% or so chance that I would get past the filing deadline. I made it clear from the start that I wasn’t interested in a primary because I saw how destructive that was in the 2006 race in which my wife was involved. His health was failing and he didn’t really need an additional stress in his life and he would have been worried.

Yes, I have some serious complaints with certain elements of the local party and I am not alone. Based on what I’m hearing from some elected officials I’m starting to get a clearer picture of what has been happening, but it doesn’t matter now.

Paul

4:22 PM
JK said...

I've battled Paul before, no need to do it again.

Simple condolence Paul.

5:40 PM
Anonymous said...

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GE is the 2nd largest corporation on the planet.

Obama is IN with the Nuclear Industry: Excelon Corp of Illinois has been one of his largest contributors from his entry into politics to the present. Excelon is the largest nuke operator on the planet;owns Con-Ed of NY; more nukes in Illinois than any other state.

GE, Westinghouse, Excelon & 3 consortiums of other companies are planning to build 29 new nuclear power plants. Their Wholly-Owned & Wholly Influenced "News" media are selling the Obama Product because Obama is in favor of Nukes.

In 2005 Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill (H.R.6) which ENABLED the nuke industry to make its Plans to build 29 new nukes-by Guaranteeing Taxpayer Payback of any nuke loans that default. (No nukes were built for the past 30 years because the banks wouldn't loan the money - too risky)

Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill-despite the fact the Congressional Budget Office rated the risk of default on the nuke loans at 50% or greater. (Does that sound like...GOOD...JUDGMENT to You?)

[NY Times has several articles about the nuke plans & a map showing all 29 locations; Wikipedia covers the subject]

Clinton Voed AGAINST the Cheney Energy Bill and said her Energy Plan does not include nuclear.

? "Its about the FUTURE...Turn The PAGE" ?

Nope. ts about Turning the PAGE BACK to the PAST: Obsloete 50 yr old nuke power plants-the dirtiest most expensive kind/centrally-controlled MONOPOLY POWER-instead of inventing New, Clean, Green De-Centralized inexpensive Energy.

An ad campaign has already begun on the TV media to re-package & re-name nuclear power plants as: GREEN & CLEAN -for-everybody too young to remember the 1970's anti-nuke movement and all the Bad News about nuclear energy.

Don't be taken in by the ad campaigns-Google:'nuclear waste dumps' & read about the hundreds of BILLIONS of gallons of nuke waste at the Hanford Washington dump; 140 tons of plutonium stored at Rocky Flats, Colorado; Barnwell, South Carolina; leaking into groundwater and rivers; plutonium released into the air around Denver from 500 instances of fires at Rocky Flats; stored on-site at every nuke reactor in America...presenting hundreds of potential "dirty bomb" targets for terrorists.

Is it true that Obama takes No Contributions/NO MONEY from Registered Federal Lobbyists?

Yes. It's a LawyerSpeak/Trick of: Speaking a Small truth covering up a Big Lie.

Nope, doesn't take money from REGISTERED FEDERAL Lobbyists.

DOES take money from STATE Lobbyists, Not Registered Lobbyists, AND the wives, husbands, law partners, aunts, uncles cousins...of Registered Federal Lobbyists. Gets money from the same big corporate donors as any other candidate.

Obama's campaign finances are involved in the prosecution (by Patrick Fitzgerald)and trial of his friend of 20 years Antoin Rezko. Some of the funds... allegedly...extorted by Rezko went into Obama's campaign coffers. Curiously, Iraqi Power Plants amd fraud are also involved in Rezko's trial. (Google: Obama -Rezko- Alsammarae-Auichi- IRAQ POWER PLANTS)

GE & the same wealthy people who sold the "new & improved vanilla flavor" Presidential PRODUCTS: Reagan & Bush/s 1 & 2 - are behind the massive ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN to sell you OBAMA.

At the beginning of this campaign season a large majority of voters were looking forward to electing Clinton. Then Obama stepped in and started the dirty campaigning that has created the DIVISION he so hypocritically decries. Obama played "the race card" so he could win in South Carolina. He was caught red-handed playing that race card-but the media blamed it on Clinton-even though they all knew they were pushing the Big Lie.

With nearly ALL "the mainstream media" pimping for Obama & slamming, smearing, and lying about the Clintons-it is truly amazing enough voters have seen thru the Media-Created Obama "movement"-for Clinton to STILL be in the race.

The only way a very small minority can CONTROL a very large Majority is: DIVIDE & CONQUER-Exactly the same Republican Strategy/Deception they have successfully pulled for most of the last century And ALL of this century, so far. . .

GE, the nuke industry/wealthy have hedged their bets & they will get Billions of your money via 29 new nukes IF either Obama or McCain is elected President.

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12:26 PM

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